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		<title>By: Deanna</title>
		<link>http://dccp.ca/blog/2009/09/diningout/comment-page-1/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Deanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the great ideas for places. I will definitely be trying the Rugby Club then.  As for paying $2 for hot sauce, when you want some flavour to a bland meal, you take what you can get. And you would be surprised at which restaurants and even pubs have charged for hot sauce (since it is not the standard Tabasco).  

Over the past couple years being back in the Lower Mainland, I have found a couple places that @nachoman and I frequent, since they are able to accommodate his allergies and my stomach issues, but we can only go to those 3 restaurants so much.  Can&#039;t wait to try out this mix-and-match Rugby Club food. 

The calling ahead is handy sometimes, though many a restaurant manager has actually said that they would be able to accommodate our dietary needs on the phone, but when we arrive to order, the kitchen has a different agenda. 
(I actually had called a wonderful restaurant in Vancouver to double check they could accommodate my dietary needs and a couple friends&#039; very specific allergies, and was reassured that there would be plenty of options the kitchen could whip up.  Sadly, upon arriving at the restaurant, speaking with the same manager, the kitchen ended up having to make us very bland meals, without any sauces, as the manager hadn&#039;t actually verified with the kitchen staff that they would be able to accommodate our specific allergies.)

Oh well, it truly is a learning experience.  

Thanks for the well wishes all, and I will keep you posted on where I find that is able to feed me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great ideas for places. I will definitely be trying the Rugby Club then.  As for paying $2 for hot sauce, when you want some flavour to a bland meal, you take what you can get. And you would be surprised at which restaurants and even pubs have charged for hot sauce (since it is not the standard Tabasco).  </p>
<p>Over the past couple years being back in the Lower Mainland, I have found a couple places that @nachoman and I frequent, since they are able to accommodate his allergies and my stomach issues, but we can only go to those 3 restaurants so much.  Can&#8217;t wait to try out this mix-and-match Rugby Club food. </p>
<p>The calling ahead is handy sometimes, though many a restaurant manager has actually said that they would be able to accommodate our dietary needs on the phone, but when we arrive to order, the kitchen has a different agenda.<br />
(I actually had called a wonderful restaurant in Vancouver to double check they could accommodate my dietary needs and a couple friends&#8217; very specific allergies, and was reassured that there would be plenty of options the kitchen could whip up.  Sadly, upon arriving at the restaurant, speaking with the same manager, the kitchen ended up having to make us very bland meals, without any sauces, as the manager hadn&#8217;t actually verified with the kitchen staff that they would be able to accommodate our specific allergies.)</p>
<p>Oh well, it truly is a learning experience.  </p>
<p>Thanks for the well wishes all, and I will keep you posted on where I find that is able to feed me.</p>
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		<title>By: Weight Loss &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dining Out Wheat-free &#38; Stomach Problems - Why does that mean I pay more for my meal?</title>
		<link>http://dccp.ca/blog/2009/09/diningout/comment-page-1/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Weight Loss &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dining Out Wheat-free &#38; Stomach Problems - Why does that mean I pay more for my meal?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://dccp.ca/blog/2009/09/diningout/comment-page-1/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds like something that could be improved by frequenting a specific restaurant, preferably one that manages to feed you without breaking the bank. I know if I ordered a side of tortilla chips and got charged $12, I&#039;d complain and likely not tip at all. Find a place that realizes that you&#039;re not asking for impossible things and charges you appropriately, then return a few times and tip well. Hopefully that&#039;ll work out. 

The Rugby Club in Vancouver has all dishes separately - meat, veg, carbs, etc. You mix and match as you choose. That might the type of thing that you&#039;re looking for - don&#039;t know if there&#039;s something similar out your way.

(Also, where the hell are you going that&#039;s charging $2 for hot sauce? I order Frank&#039;s / tabasco sauce all the time and have never been charged)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds like something that could be improved by frequenting a specific restaurant, preferably one that manages to feed you without breaking the bank. I know if I ordered a side of tortilla chips and got charged $12, I&#8217;d complain and likely not tip at all. Find a place that realizes that you&#8217;re not asking for impossible things and charges you appropriately, then return a few times and tip well. Hopefully that&#8217;ll work out. </p>
<p>The Rugby Club in Vancouver has all dishes separately &#8211; meat, veg, carbs, etc. You mix and match as you choose. That might the type of thing that you&#8217;re looking for &#8211; don&#8217;t know if there&#8217;s something similar out your way.</p>
<p>(Also, where the hell are you going that&#8217;s charging $2 for hot sauce? I order Frank&#8217;s / tabasco sauce all the time and have never been charged)</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
		<link>http://dccp.ca/blog/2009/09/diningout/comment-page-1/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch - that sounds rough! 

I know that for many chain restaurants, the real creativity happens in the test-kitchens, and any deviations from the norm are firmly stomped out of the staff in the kitchen. It actually becomes a liability (because of forecasting/ordering) to encourage playing fast and loose with the ingredients available.

When I worked with someone who&#039;s got severe nut/seed allergies (which end up in more things than I&#039;d have thought!), I learned of the magic of phoning ahead. If you&#039;re with a group that has a reservation, simply phone, say you&#039;re coming and have the following restrictions. That gives them some time to come up with something besides edamame and a baked potato, and perhaps they can give suggestions over the phone, while not in a rush, on substitutions that won&#039;t cost an arm and a leg.

Another bonus to phoning: you can often end up speaking to a manager who&#039;s in a better position to put together a reasonable meal at a reasonable cost for you, rather than a server patching together a series of sides from what they&#039;ve got available in their computer during the dinner rush. 

Good Luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch &#8211; that sounds rough! </p>
<p>I know that for many chain restaurants, the real creativity happens in the test-kitchens, and any deviations from the norm are firmly stomped out of the staff in the kitchen. It actually becomes a liability (because of forecasting/ordering) to encourage playing fast and loose with the ingredients available.</p>
<p>When I worked with someone who&#8217;s got severe nut/seed allergies (which end up in more things than I&#8217;d have thought!), I learned of the magic of phoning ahead. If you&#8217;re with a group that has a reservation, simply phone, say you&#8217;re coming and have the following restrictions. That gives them some time to come up with something besides edamame and a baked potato, and perhaps they can give suggestions over the phone, while not in a rush, on substitutions that won&#8217;t cost an arm and a leg.</p>
<p>Another bonus to phoning: you can often end up speaking to a manager who&#8217;s in a better position to put together a reasonable meal at a reasonable cost for you, rather than a server patching together a series of sides from what they&#8217;ve got available in their computer during the dinner rush. </p>
<p>Good Luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Nachbaur</title>
		<link>http://dccp.ca/blog/2009/09/diningout/comment-page-1/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Nachbaur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 22:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I know, and the ridiculous thing is that my meals are typically dirt cheap compared to yours when we go out to dinner, and I&#039;m the one with the more severe allergies.  I suppose part of it has to do with the fact that they&#039;re paying so much attention to not killing me, that they overlook your requests.

That, and by saying &quot;Can I have a side of...&quot; is akin to asking a car salesman &quot;Do you think I should get the undercoat?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I know, and the ridiculous thing is that my meals are typically dirt cheap compared to yours when we go out to dinner, and I&#8217;m the one with the more severe allergies.  I suppose part of it has to do with the fact that they&#8217;re paying so much attention to not killing me, that they overlook your requests.</p>
<p>That, and by saying &#8220;Can I have a side of&#8230;&#8221; is akin to asking a car salesman &#8220;Do you think I should get the undercoat?&#8221;</p>
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